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Average Time of Discharge: Why a Hospital is Not a Hilton

Do you get as annoyed as I do about being pressured on your “Time of Discharge?” I just received my monthly report, and we’re in The Doghouse again: our average TOD – 3:28 pm – is hours after “check-out time.”

But when did we turn into the Holiday Inn?

Let’s start by appreciating where this comes from. Many hospitals, including mine, tend to run full – given the huge fixed costs of operating a modern hospital, being full is probably the only way you can be profitable, just like the airlines. Queuing theory (don’t tell me you’ve forgotten your queuing theory!) tells us that, when you’re full, you should look for fundamental choke points and do your best to relieve them. There are PhDs working for McDonald’s whose lives are dedicated to figuring out how to avoid lines at lunchtime rush hour, and others working in aviation who model the best ways to load passengers onto planes (latest answer courtesy of a Fermi Lab astrophysicist: start in the back and load every third row, back to front, sequentially).  

The main stenosis in hospitals occurs in the early afternoon: the morning’s OR cases are finishing, the ED is heating up, the clinics are sending over elective and urgent admissions, the respiratory therapists have done their weaning and “liberated” a few patients from vents… and everybody needs a floor bed. Now! But they’re all taken, since nobody’s gone home yet.

Gridlock. Bad for business.

How do you fix this? About a decade ago, some smart consultant (I can’t figure out who, but he or she must have had a terrific PowerPoint slide making this point since every hospital I know of picked up on it) came up with the solution: let’s measure and report the time of discharge by service, shining the holy light of transparency on service chiefs like me to get them cracking. And since everybody likes Goals, how about we set a guideline – “The Discharge Time on 5 South is 11 am” – and post it in every room and nurse's station. Then it won’t be a shocker to the family when we try to hustle grandma into the wheelchair and roll her out of her room before noon.

This all seems fine so far, particularly if I’m the COO or CFO. But from what I’ve seen visiting scores of hospitals in the U.S., achieving an 11 am discharge time, at least on medical services, is all-but-impossible. (If your hospital has met this goal, particularly on a medical service, I’d love to hear about it.) Why is this so hard?, naturally ask the C-Suite Folks, who see “good business” being turned away because sluggish physicians aren’t getting with the discharge-time program.

Because a Hospital is not a Hilton. If I have 14 patients on my service, my mornings are spent running around seeing them all, waiting for their labs, checking in with consultants, talking to family members and primary care physicians, and more. I’m also prioritizing my work – though the hospital undoubtedly wants me to see potentially discharge-able patients first, that violates the first rule of triage: see my sickest patients first. Until the cloning thing gets a bit more advanced, I can’t do both.

In other words, the morning of discharge is an amazingly active time – whereas, at the Hilton, I just have to get up, pack my bag, finish my brunch, read my USA Today, and I’m A La Casa. Moreover, the Hilton might hit me up for an extra $225 if I don’t get out on time.

All of this makes the hotel analogy fundamentally flawed.

For certain patients, of course, the morning may not be quite so active, and an 11 am checkout might be quite do-able. On surgical services, for example, discharge might hinge simply on whether Mrs. Jones has bowel sounds and kept down her breakfast; on medicine, on whether Mr. Diaz can walk or is no longer confused. But these patients, who can leave by 11, are the outliers.

In fact, with lengths of stay as short as they are now, the morning of discharge is not just active, it is hyperactive. So when I am pressured to “improve” my time of discharge, I usually respond, “If you’d like, I can move the average discharge time up to 8 am. It’ll just be one day later than I had planned.” CFOs don’t like to hear that.

Which brings me to my final plea: I believe it should be illegal to report Time of Discharge without also – in the same document – reporting adjusted average length of stay (or LOS against appropriate benchmarks). Time of discharge and ALOS are inextricably linked. The service that has a long length of stay AND a late discharge time might really have a problem. But the service with a short length of stay and a late discharge time is probably doing very good work, and harassing it over its TOD is annoying and counterproductive.

Can any good come out of the focus on time of discharge? Sure. Late discharges sometimes truly do highlight systems problems that need fixin’ – the teaching service that should be restructured so that the attending “card flips” with the housestaff to identify potential discharges before teaching rounds; the lab that needs to get its morning blood work out by 9 am, not 10:30; the social work/case management enterprise that needs streamlining. In such cases, the average discharge time can be a useful metric for QI projects that map out the mornings and shave some minutes here and there. And preparing patients and families the night before for a potential discharge makes good sense.

But just pressuring docs with a flawed and all-but-irrelevant hotel analogy – particularly when the data are presented without also considering performance on overall length of stay – is just plain silly.

13 Comments

 

kirsten said:

My brother-in-law was in the hospital for only 1 full day after inexplicably fainting. at 8 am the next morning the nurses said he was ready to go, he signed almost all the discharge papers and was told he only had to see the neurologist before he could walk out. The neurologist showed up at 4:30pm! I understand his schedule is quite hefty and the hospital can not dictate who he sees first so is there a solution? And as you said, they put him through a battery of tests in only 1 day.... that should be reported.

Wed, Mar 26 2008 1:45 PM
 

totoxm said:

I enjoy your blog and what you contribute to health care quality through your work.

While I do not disagree with your stance here, I feel compelled to point out an issue that I see repeated throughout medicine.  Schedules, systems, and processess that exist for the convenience of the doctor, the nurse, the techs, or the hospitals; instead of a schedule that is driven by the intent to provide patient-centered, customer friendly care.  I see repeatedly the situation where the patient is just a cog in the wheel - instead of the hub.  I think it is at the heart of many of the issues in medicine that end up negatively impacting everyone.

Wed, Mar 26 2008 2:52 PM
 

pprescot said:

totoxm: did you not read the whole post? Make rounds at 6 AM. Order labs, get OK results at 11 AM. Meet the discharge deadline?

Etc Etc Etc.

The patient IS the cog. And the poorly designed "gears" are the hospital services. But the blame, of course, falls on the MD.

Expect the administrative MBA trained pygmies to get the point? Maybe, in a hundred years.

Thu, Mar 27 2008 12:37 AM
 

menoalittle said:

Bob,

Interesting.  Have you been called to the C-Suite yet? It is inconceivable that a patient is safe when the hyperactivity is focused on a deadline for getting the patient out of the hospital, unless it was a soft admission not needing to be hospitalized in the first place and the patient enjoyed breakfast in bed.  Most hospitals have vacant beds that are not staffed based on business decisions by the same C-Suite Folks who see patients as customers and whose mantra places profits before patients.  This is a distinctly different approach from the warm and fuzzy hospital mission statements appearing on the glossy annual reports would have everyone believe.  

BTW, if you ever deploy the care altering CPOE devices that have been coming to UCSF “next year for the past five years" (your January 27, 2008 post), the TOD and ALOS will not improve and will likely go south. Then what?

Best regards and continue these articulate posts,

Menoalittle

Thu, Mar 27 2008 2:13 AM
 

josh said:

Most pediatric programs handle this by discharging the patient the next day.  I know that's pretty bogus but if a patient is ready Thursday evening, he usually gets sent home Friday morning.  At least the housestaff have time to fill out the paperwork!

Thu, Mar 27 2008 9:15 PM
 

vanillablue said:

totoxm: I'd argue that discharging a patient later in the day usually is providing patient-centered care.  It allows for more time for discharge planning, is usually more convenient for families to pick up the patient, and is overall less "rushed" for the patient.  Arbitrarily stating that patients should be discharged by a fixed time is not patient-centered at all.  

Thu, Mar 27 2008 10:01 PM
 

DZA said:

"In fact, with lengths of stay as short as they are now, the morning of discharge is not just active, it is hyperactive. So when I am pressured to “improve” my time of discharge, I usually respond, “If you’d like, I can move the average discharge time up to 8 am. It’ll just be one day later than I had planned.” CFOs don’t like to hear that."

Precisely my response to case management. The D/C well enough to have gone home this morning, I already sent home yesterday evening...

/love your stuff

Thu, Mar 27 2008 10:59 PM
 

totoxm said:

I guess I wasn't clear.   It just seems to me (having been a patient, and more importantly having had children in the hospital several times) that the whole system is screwy.    Dr. Wachter is of course making the point from the physician's perspective.  I have to say however that I detect an undercurrent of physician convenience at the heart of his comments - that's what I was responding to.  I am probably wrong about Dr. Wachter, but I have seen too often the very same type of behavior he is accusing the hospital admin of doing on the part of physicians themselves.  It is all to easy to blame "MBA trained pygmies", but I have seen as bad or worse behavior from physicians in terms of doing things out of concern for their own convenience or precious time, rather than what the patient needs.  

Here is what I'm really talking about: why do we have a situation where it is doctors vs. admin?  The whole thing is wacked.  

Tue, Apr 01 2008 4:45 AM
 

chris johnson said:

From my perspective as a pediatrician, the paradigm makes even less sense because length of stay is so short with children. They get sick fast, they get well fast. So a good share of the time we don't even know they might be ready to go home until after we round on them. Then there's the dismissal paperwork (which gets more burdonsome by the year), etc., etc. We're lucky to get them out by 3 pm. As you've pointed out, of course, we could go back to the old way -- dismiss them the next morning.

Tue, Apr 08 2008 2:26 AM
 

Dede said:

totoxm,

you are right about the whole system is wacked.

I don't know about you, but if I need to get my car fixed, I'll have to make an appointment and leave it to them to repair when they have time to repair ,and I pay what they ask for.

Now the doctors work whenever are needed because the sick bodies can wait until you have convenient time to work, so we do nights, we work 20 hours a day sometimes when it gets crazy,we get paid whatever the insurance company willing to cover or not at all, a lot of times it's not like we don't want to make your stay more pleasant, we just have to go and see 20 more really sick people and give them the best care we could deliver as well. Otherwise, the patient relations will find you, nurses will be paging you, other families are angry, worst of all..... ,if you missed any thing or you are too slow to see a very sick patient-you get sued!

Unfortunately, hospital is not hilton after all, please bear with us, we are here to help you and your family to get better, we are doing the best we can in this wacked system.

Tue, Apr 08 2008 4:37 AM
 

menoalittle said:

Bob,

Speaking of Hiltons and hospitals, I decided to  research  executive compensation of both.  In the year 2006, Hilton’s CEO, Stephen Bollenbach, received one million dollars in salary, a $137,830 bonus, and stock and option awards totaling $8,720,247. Hilton’s President and COO, Matthew Hart, received $850,000 in salary, no bonus, and stock and option awards totaling $1,985,788.

In contrast, a  table from the April 4, 2008 “Wall Street Journal”, that is not reproducible in its original form here, lists salaries of "some of the best paid  nonprofit hospital CEOs" for the same year, 2006:

                                                                                 total comp in $millions

Gary Mecklenburg (Northwestern Memorial Hospita)            16.4

Floyd Loop           (Cleveland Clinic)                                     7.5

Mark Neaman      (Evanston Northwestern Healthcare)          5.4

Lloyd Dean          (Catholic Healthcare West)                        5.3

Philip Incarnati     (McLaren Health Care Corp.)                     5.2

Joseph Trunfio     (AHS Hospital Corp.)                                 5.0

Alan Brass           (Promedica)                                             4.1

Herbert Pardes    (New York-Presbyterian)                            3.5

Jeffrey Romoff     (UPMC)*                                                  3.3

Douglas French    (Ascension Health)                                   3.3

   *   a subject of a Wachter's World post

Would you rather run a hospital or the Hilton?  Perhaps, the CEOs  really think they are operating the Hilton?

Best regards,

Menoalittle

Thu, Apr 10 2008 6:39 AM
 

Quality Nurse said:

    This was a very interesting blog, and I feel compelled to share some of my own thoughts.  I understand the doctors' position, they are very busy and require triaging their patients; the sickest should come first.  However, administration focuses on the bottom line, after all, forced to make the most from less and less, administration must focus its attention on maximizing reimbursement.  Most contracts will state that hospitals are paid on the day of admission, but not on the day of discharge.  Therefore, keeping a patient longer through the day keeps a potential bed occupied by a non-paying patient.

    It may be unfortunate that this is what it has come to, but it is the state of affairs.  The 11 am discharge time seems universal, but it is just a number.  I believe that the primary focus is that discharges are timely and administration would appreciate a sincere effort to expedite these discharges.

    What this blog points out is the disconnect of physicians and administration.  Both pushing their own agendas, and both are valid.  Neither seem to want to sit down together and attempt to look at the process in place and suggest how it could be changed or improved.  Too many times I have seen MD's say that they didn't care what happens to the hospital, they will still get paid.  And on the other side, MD's have to be responsible for treating their patients how they see fit; we seem to have quite a conundrum.

   In another post, Dr. Provonost was mentioned and appears highly regarded.  In the past he spearheaded a PI process in the ICU's aimed at improving communication among the healthcare staff, while involving the patient and family. This project, Transformation in the ICU, successfully improved communication by changing the way things are done.  There was a better understanding by the whole team of the plan of care and what had to be done and seen by the attending physician to achieve a safe discharge.  The project ended with a decrease in LOS, improved safety and quality, etc.  Please research this project from Johns Hopkins.

    Perhaps through the proper use of physician extenders, and a well-communicated plan, discharges could be achieved without the attending physician to actually need to see the patient.  This may be seen as rude or unprofessional, but so is keeping a patient sitting in a hospital bed just to wait for the attending to come and say goodbye.

Thu, May 15 2008 3:14 PM
 

Bobpaule said:

I have the exceptional privilege of working for a 200 bed community non-profit hospital, still out of the reach of the degrading symbiosis (commensalism may be the more appropriate term here) between large HMOs and our greedy politicians. Doctors here have a real say in decision making.

As a result fixed discharge times were eliminated 10 years ago, and sometimes patients spend the next night just because there is no one to pick them up.

Tue, May 20 2008 10:45 PM
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